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Geroneja (10/19/03 16:33:32) Джеймс в роли Гарри Дрездена
Совсем недавно стало известно, что очень скоро будут экранизированы книги Джима Бутчера, главным героем которых является маг Гарри Дрезден. Предварительное название сериала - "Harry Dresden Files" и основным претендентом на роль сам автор книг называет Джеймса Марстерса. Дело в том, что Джеймс уже озвучил две книги о Дрездене - "Storm Front" и "Fool Moon". И хоть я слышала только одну и некоторые кусочки второй, но образ Дрездена уже сейчас ассоциируется у меня только с ДМ и его великолепным голосом ))
Впрочем, не в это суть Основная загвоздка - занятость ДМ в "Ангеле", хотя сам Марстерс сказал, что с большим удовольствием сыграет Гарри Дрездена, так как ему очень нравятся книги Бутчера и, озвучивая их, он проникся историей, правда, Марстерс считает, что ростом для этой роли не вышел (согласно описанию Бутчера, Гарри - человек очень высокий, такой себе каланча, который вечно позвышается над толпой, рост ДМ - 178см), впрочем, не думаю, что это станет большой проблемой ) На некоторых досках уже обсуждается вариант подбора партнерш по съемкам маленького роста. Например, на роль Мэрфи некоторые товарищи предлагают Джиллиан Андерсон ))
На конвенции Dragon Con (29.08-1.09.2003) одновременно присутствовали и Джеймс, и Джим Бутчер - удалось ли им поговорить, так до сих пор и непонятно, однако, и Джим, и ДМ очень хотели встретиться, причем, я даже и не знаю, кто больше, судя по разговорам людей, которые беседовали с обоими )
После этой конвенции в Сети появилось открытое письмо Джима Бутчера по поводу экранизации, в котором он попросил фанов помочь определиться с исполнителем главной роли в будующем сериале ) А так как Марстерс там упоминается как основной претиндент, то мы просто не могли пойти мимо ))
Письмо Джима Бутчера:
Hey guys!
Let's cut straight to the chase: the Dresden Files are on the home stretch in Hollywood.
In two weeks, Morgan Gendel, together with Nick Cage's production company, Saturn Films, will be meeting with some heavyweight network types about the Dresden Files. Morgan is aiming at an hour-long weekly series, and if the suits like the idea and think it could be a winner, they'll buy it, and it will be the real deal.
It's more than I ever dreamed or really hoped might happen to my career, or to the stories I wrote.
But let's give credit where credit is due: you guys, the fans, are the ones who really made the Dresden Files fly. I know that there are more than a few people out there who have proselytized the books with fanatic intensity, rearranged bookstores, casually loaned copies out to hook a new reader, or otherwise gone out of their way to spread good words about my work. I do not doubt that there are some people out there who have spent more time selling other people on my work than I have writing it. Thank you.
Others have come to the books more recently, through the dulcet readings of the good Mister Marsters, and James' fans are more than simply welcome. They've been an enormous boost in terms of sales and a worried young writer's morale. So also to the more recent Marsters fans who have helped me out, again, thank you.
That said, I need everyone's help.
One of the critical factors in the negotiations over the series will be the presence (or lack thereof) of a grassroots fanbase for the series. IE, the suits want to know that SOMEONE is going to want to watch this show. So I got together with Morgan, and here's the deal. He's setting up an email address for the sole purpose of receiving mail from fans in support of the books as a series.
Let me say that in a slightly different way: FANS are going to have some say over whether or not this show is going to go into production, as WELL as over who might be approached to be cast in the series.
How many SciFi fan groups have rallied together in an effort to save their favorite cancelled show? It worked once, with original Star Trek. Other efforts were made with equal intensity but lacked success, and the corpses of shows like B5: Crusade, Farscape, Beauty and the Beast, Jules Verne, and many, MANY others now lay in the Hallowed Halls of Syndication or are lost in the Catacombs of Obscurity.
But I don't think ANY of them had a fan base helping them get STARTED.
This is pretty much a historical first, guys. For people who have longed to have a voice of any kind in the future of SF television, here is a place to begin. If you want to see the Dresden Files launched as a television series, you need to send email to the address below and SAY SO. If you want a particular actor playing a particular role (*kaffkaff*MarstersasDresden*kaffkaff*), you also need to send email to the below address and SAY SO.
A strong fan presence behind the Dresden Files is going to make a huge difference when everyone bellies up to the negotiating table. I mean come on, how many producers could show film execs a few thousand fan emails for a show that hasn't even been CREATED yet. What's more, if that same fan presence has a strong desire to see a particular actor playing the part, it is going to send a big old message to the producers, who will treat that desire seriously.
At the end of this email, I'm including a template email that you can use to send to the fan-support mailbox for the Dresden Files going to TV. Feel free to write your own should you wish, but I want to provide the template so that all you will need to do is cut and paste the template below, filling in your own answers.
I cannot stress enough how perfectly serious I am about this. If Dresden is to hit the screen, I will need as much support (and as many emails) as we can possibly get. So don't feel you have to be a member of a fan club or mailing list to send in your opinion. You don't. Your opinion counts just as much as everyone else's, and I urge everyone who loves SF&F television to lend their voice to Dresden's cause, and to asks other fans of the genre to do the same.
This is beyond exciting, and of course I will keep the list posted as I get new information. Email template follows.
Jim
TEMPLATE
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To: "Dresden Files E-mail" <dresdenfiles@linkline.com> Subject: Dresden Files Television Series
Dear Morgan,
I am in favor of the production of the Dresden Files to television and/or movies!
On a scale of one to ten, I would watch the series with the following frequency. _______ ("1--Eh, whenever" to "10--Each and every week, possibly in costume.")
Given a choice of actors to play the part of Harry Dresden, I think that ________________________________ would be an excellent choice.
Variety официально объявила о начале работы над "Досье Дрездена". Об актерах - ни слова. Поскольку ссылка запароленная, привожу здесь сам текст
Net cages sci-fi guy Thesp ventures into TV with 'Dresden' By DENISE MARTIN
Making his first foray into television, Nicolas Cage has set up and will exec produce two-hour pilot "The Dresden Files" for Sci Fi Channel. CablerCabler has greenlit production on the project, based on Jim Butcher's bestselling novels. Lions Gate Television is onboard to produce in association with Cage's Saturn Films.
Hans Beimler ("The District" and Robert Wolfe ("The 4400" will write and exec produce alongside Cage. Saturn Films' Norm Golightly and Morgan Gendel also will exec produce.
Story follows Harry Dresden, a wizard who makes his living as a Chicago-based private eye. Using his extraordinary abilities to see the paranormal forces behind crimes, Dresden helps the police solve their more baffling cases.
Sci Fi exec VP of programming Mark Stern said, unlike the cabler's other original dramas, "Dresden" will pursue a more procedural-style of storytelling.
"It's very much a detective procedural with a speculative sci-fi spin -- a first for us and something we've been looking to do for a while," Stern said. "What the script did so well was to make the fantasy elements integral to (rather than superimposed on) the plot."
"There's this 'Rockford Files' quality to it that I love," he added.
"Dresden Files" is one of two pilots under series consideration at Sci Fi. Other is "Painkiller Jane," a comicbook adaptation about a young woman exposed to a biochemical weapon that gives her self-healing powers. Production on "Jane" wrapped early this year.
Sci Fi last month ordered to series "Eureka," a quirky drama about a man who stumbles upon a small town of geniuses working for the government (Daily Variety, Sept. 26).
"Dresden" is out to directors and casting. Production will begin in Toronto this fall for a target summer 2006 premiere.
Cage will next produce and star in "The Wicker Man" for writer-director Neil LaBute. He toplines Paramount's upcoming pic "The Weather Man."
Date in print: Thurs., Oct. 6, 2005, Los Angeles
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Убей - не могу найти твой адрес! кинь мне что-нибудь на eleteli@mtu-net.ru, в пришлю тебе сайдзы "ответом" ~~Sorry~~
И вдогонку - комментарии Бутчера
NOW it's official.
The script is based on the novel for Storm Front, but it ain't like it's going to be letter-for-letter or anything. Some elements are going to be discarded for the sake of story-length, others emphasized. There might be special effects! Don't expect the movie mirror the book precisely, although the writers have read the entire series and they're using elements from several different books, though not necessarily in the same way--think, I dunno, maybe X-Men comics versus X-Men movies versus X-Men cartoon series. Similar use of the story's characters and elements, but not necessarily positioned or utilized in the same way.
(Which is itself just the modern version of comedia del arte, but that's neither here nor there.)
I've seen the scenes they're using to audition for Dresden, which was interesting as hell. I hope to get a look at the full script before too terribly much longer. They're doing casting now (and I'll share information about it as it becomes share-able) and filming is scheduled for November 19.
Не знаю, правда это или люди придуриваются, но, возможно, на этой страничке действительно засветился Джим Бутчер (пост 25). И дальше некто writergroupie говорит, что ДМ ведет переговоры о другом проекте. Не знаю, что за тип этот writergroupie, но вкус к драматургии у него отменный. Поклонник Дэрина Моргана - это гарантия качества (и любви к абсурдному юмору)
Хм, какие-то малообнадеживающие новости отspikeylover From Robert Hewitt Wolfe:
While it's true that there are certain actors who simply won't relocate to Toronto that might be available if we were shooting in Los Angeles or New York (or possibly Vancouver), it's completely out of the question to film anyplace else (well, anyplace but Ontario, Rhode Island or Louisiana). The economics won't support it.
L.A., N.Y. and B.C. are currently expensive places to shoot. DRESDEN FILES is a very demanding project, full of effects and stunts and locations and guest cast. And we're doing it for basic cable, which has to deal with a certain reality when it comes to advertising revenue. The only places in English speaking North America with sufficient tax incentives and labor deals to make a project like DRESDEN FILES practical given our budget realities are Louisiana, Rhode Island and Toronto. Of those, Toronto has the best crews, established FX houses, the most stages, the biggest acting pool, and is the best match for Chicago. So the choice isn't between using Toronto or Vancouver or L.A. or Chicago itself. The choice is between shooting in Toronto or scrapping the project.
We had the exact same problem with SCARLETT. Certain people were interested in playing the role, but were unwilling to relocate to Louisiana for five years. While I understood their position, SCARLETT was shooting in Louisiana no matter what, so the point was non-negotiable. In the end, we found Rebecca Gayheart, who's going to be terrific.
That's why I talked about casting being a process. It's not simply case of saying "We want Joe Schmoe to play Harry." And wallah, Joe Schmoe shows up at your doorstep. The process goes something like this:
1. Hans and I decide we want Joe. 2. We check with Joe's people to see if he's available, how much he costs, if he's willing to move to Toronto for five years, if he likes the part, and if he will audition (or if he's "offer only" IE he refuses to audition) 3. Audition Joe if possible. 4. Strike a deal with Joe that fits our budget. 5. Have Joe "test" with the network (if he's willing) 6. Get SciFi and Lion's Gate to agree to Joe.
Hiring Joe can fall apart anywhere between 1 and 6. We start with hundreds of people at step 1. By step 5 we're down to a half dozen or so. And at the end of 6, we've got only one. There can be only one.
So if we don't cast your favorite choice for the role, please believe me, it's not because we didn't try. It's like when Spielberg couldn't get Tom Selleck to play Indiana Jones because he couldn't get out of his TV contract. It sucked. But losing Selleck didn't mean RAIDERS was doomed. This kind of stuff happens all the time.
The important thing is, we're VERY excited about the people we're seeing. We think in the end, we'll find a Harry that we'll love. And we hope you'll love him to.
Сижу теперь грущу Ощущение, что заранее оправдываются перед излишне горячими фанами, что не их любимец будет сниматься в проекте
-------------- "Удача улыбается смелым, но потом долго ржет над ними" Риша "Маггла на тропе войны"
Ходят какие-то глухие разговоры, что ДМ не может сниматься в Торонто, потому что ему придется надолго разлучиться с сыном. А снимать ближе к ЛА - слишком дорого. **************** Рецензия на сценарий пилота "Досье Дрездена"
Стива Химбера спросили о Досье Дрездена во время непредвиденного перерыва на концерте ДМ:
Second question from me (guess what) "What about Harry Dresden?" Answer: We have not heard from them". He then expanded a bit that casting is done through all sorts of levels in the business - and gets to the actor late. Well at least, he did not say it was a complete goner.
Ну, что надежда умирает последней...
-------------- "Удача улыбается смелым, но потом долго ржет над ними" Риша "Маггла на тропе войны"
"An audience member asked about James playing Harry Dresden; we had just found out that James will be starting work on Shaddow Puppet (starring! in a major motion feature film) but what does this do for his chances to be in the Dresden Movie of the Week.
Steve told the audience that Jim Butcher is a huge fan of James; and Steve tells us he's not being coy... he honestly doesn't have anything to report back to us, yet. It could still happen, it may happen... perhaps things might work in their favor, but there is no news to report .
Keep watch of James' official web site for updates on the Dresden project (per Steve). When he knows something, he will tell us. He made the audience laugh by saying that we will go ahead and speculate anyway... cause that's what we do, and we do it well"
------------ "Удача улыбается смелым, но потом долго ржет над ними" Риша "Маггла на тропе войны"
"On the Dresden front, apparently they start filming on November 28, so there will probably be an announcement on the lead soon. James is doing a feature film and going back to SMALLVILLE (plus it shoots in Toronto, and he has repeatedly stated he can't do that) so I don't think our boy will be the lead.
Just hope for Jim Butcher's sake that they don't get someone blah and mediocre. (he is the author of the book and endorsed James as the one he would like in the role) Still won't keep everyone who loves his books from supporting him, although it does help all the way around if they get a charismatic lead.
There was one person at ex isle who speculated it was going to be Michael Shanks from Stargate (???) Never heard of him but most of those who love the books aren't thrilled with the suggestion. (although it does make sense that it might be him)
I wanted James in this role since the end of ATS, so I'm not going to have heart to watch it if he isn't the guy."
------------ "Удача улыбается смелым, но потом долго ржет над ними" Риша "Маггла на тропе войны"
С Шэнксом непонятно. По идее он должен скоро начать сниматься в 10 сезоне "Звездных врат". Но тут поползли слушки, что он вроде как решил уйти... Если это так - не исключено, что он действительно нацелился на роль Дрездена.
Вот что увидела на слеерверсе: "Thanks to everyone who helped to push James for “Dresden Files”. They have set British actor Paul Blackthorne" Блиииин....
Вот .здесь товарищ, занимающийся проектом Robert Hewitt Wolfe вывесил объяснение, почему ДМ не играет Дрездена:
"Okay, I usually don't comment on casting specifics beyond "We just cast ------- and he's great!"
But I do feel people deserve an explanation on the James Marsters thing. So here it is:
James Marsters passed on the part in the very first week of casting James was not alone in this. It's a normal part of the process. We made a list of several dozen guys and checked their availabilities. About half of them dropped out at that point because they weren't interested or weren't available. We contacted James' agent and he told us James was passing because he didn't want to move to Toronto for five years.
No harm, no foul. Like I said, this is a normal part of the process.
But then, surprisingly, James' manager posted on his official website and asked the fans to write to SciFi to try to get James the job. Which was mystifying to me, considering that at this point, James had already passed.
I don't know why this happened. The most innocent explanation is that there was a communications failure between James' manager and his agent. But it did mean that many devoted fans spent a lot of time writing letters and postcards that weren't going to do any good because James wasn't interested in the job.
To make things worse, that same person recently posted an update implying that James didn't get the job because we picked someone else. Now I'm not saying James would've gotten the job if he'd thrown his hat in the ring. He might've. He might not've. But the reason James didn't get the job is because James didn't want the job.
Let me reiterate. We were interested in James as one of our candidates. James passed. James passed before the pilot was even officially announced, before the story appeared on his website, before we held a single audition.
Our final candidates emerged from a long process of auditions and test deals. We narrowed over fifty interested actors down to eight or so very talented finalists. The person who will emerge from this group will do so because he is the most talented guy we could find after a long and arduous process.
And we'll tell you who is it as soon as it's officially released to the press. Because that's how things are supposed to be done.
K. End of rant.
Robert
PS: Just so everyone knows, I've got no hard feelings toward James. I enjoyed working with James before and I look forward to doing so again. But I can't put a gun to his head and frogmarch him to Toronto if he doesn't want to go. "
И народ теперь бурно это обсуждает: на первой ссылке и здесь Фишка заключается в том, что Джеймс, судя по словам товарища прошел пробы одним из первых, как только объявили кастинг, но из-за того, что съемки будут проходить в Торонто он соответсвенно выбыл из кандидатов на роль. И народ теперь обсужает, почему его менеджер Стив Химбер продолжал держать фанов в неизвестности и подогревал их надежды. Неприятный осадок от этой истории
------------ "Удача улыбается смелым, но потом долго ржет над ними" Риша "Маггла на тропе войны"
Батчер говорит тоже самое в своем письме к народу, сейчас повешу:
I'm sure that many have already heard this one, but it's official: Paul Blackthorne as Dresden.
James would have loved to do the part, but he was unwilling to head to Toronto for five years: he has family growing up in and around LA, and he didn't want to relocate away from them. It takes a great deal of personal integrity (and considerable wisdom) to realize which things in life are /really/ important. A lot of men wouldn't have made the same decision when offered the temptation of a feature role, quite possibly leading to an ongoing, starring role as the absolute, uncontested core star of a show.
Ironically, James' decision in this makes him, at least in my eyes, more Harry-like than ever, and kicks my respect for him up several notches. I'm disappointed--not that he made that decision, which I think is the right one--but that things just didn't work out. That's how business goes sometimes. There are no hard feelings on anyone's side. If the movie goes to a series, though, maybe he could be talked into a guest spot. I can think of several characters, who, if used, James would be great for.
Mr. Blackthorne, according to all reports I've heard, is an extremely skilled actor with great presence, and able to do "dark" sorts of scenes and emotions very well. I think he looks remarkably like Connery when he was in "Darby O'Gill and the Little People." You could do worse than a quasi-Connery for a lead actor. With luck, I'll get a chance to visit the set and meet some of the people working on the movie, and give you guys some inside skinny when I return.
Девушки, я тут наткнулась на слух , что в сети уже доступны 5-7 книги на английском. Может у кого-нибудь уже есть поделитесь ,плиз, а то я что-то не могу найти
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