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Спойлеры и рассуждения

1. Почему хронология пятого сезона сдвинута ровно на четыре месяца назад?

а) сценаристам необходимо, чтобы события финала происходили в январе 2004 (то есть через 8 месяцев после Chosen)
и) это просто оплошность вроде "потерянного месяца" в середине 7 сезона "Баффи"

2. Почему к матери Лайлы вернулась память сразу же после того как Уэс убил отца?

а) их души встретились на высшем уровне бытия, и теперь мама Лайлы вернулась с посланием от Роджера Уиндэма-Прайса к Уэсли или ко всей Банде Клыка
б) просто совпадение

3. Почему амулет и материализующее волшебство были посланы по почте?

а) бюджетные ограничения
б) Сценаристы не нашли другого способа подсунуть Хармони Спайку в момент его материализации

4. Зачем сценаристы спаривают Спайка и Хармони?

а) они намерены радикально переписать обоих персонажей и сделать их них "комическую разрядку" шоу
б) они готовы принести Хармони в жертву гнева фанатов для того, чтобы другие кандидатуры в "девушки Спайка" (Фред, Ева) казались бы фанам более приемлемым

5. Почему в чаше страданий оказалась Mountain Dew?

а) Если это идея Джосса Ведона - чаша страданий окажется настоящей, что бы в ней ни находилось. Ведон не раз говорил, что в его понимании "цель путешествия - в самом путешествии". В соответствии с этим кредо единственное, что имеет значение - то, что Спайк все-таки выпил эту чашу. Можно начинать готовиться к тому, что Спайка снова будут мучить...
б) Если это идея Дэвида Фьюри - значит, чаша страданий - всего лишь "оживляж", дешевый предлог для демонстрации драки двух крутых мачо

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Новости:

С ASSB :

Date Posted: 02:46:58 03/07/04 Sun
Author: Slop Reilly
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Subject: Possible Finale Information....Spoilerish

I will prefice this by saying that I am highly skeptical of this information because I believe that I heard somewhere that David Fury said that the finale would not film until April. But I am posting this information because if it is true, it is very interesting.

Today I was talking to a member of the "Angel" crew. He said that they have just finished wrapping this season yesterday. The finale was shot, and yes Sarah Michelle Gellar did show up for a surprise cameo. He said that in the finale Angel goes "Godfather" on the Senior Partners and everyone that ever had some sort of evil background. In one particular scene he recounted for me, Lindsey, who has since joined Team Angel and has been working very "closely" with Angel is sent along with Lorne for some reason to finish off killing some demons that are tied to the Senior Partners. After Lindsey kills the demons, Lorne pulls a gun on him. Lindsey tells him that he is now 100% on Angel's side, that he can be trusted, and if he wants he will sing for him to prove his faithfulness. Lorne says he has already heard him sing, and that it was Angel that has ordered his death. Lorne, who has never fired a gun before, then shoots Lindsey in the head killing him. This sets off a montage showing Team Angel excuting anyone that has ever been remotely tied to evil. In the end, Angel and the Fang Gang have taken out all their enemies including the Senior Partners.

This crew member did not tell me if Buffy chose either Spike or Angel. He had no news on any shippage, just that Buffy appears.

Now like I said, take this with a grain of salt. I really do believe that the finale will not film until April, which would make this foilage and not spoilage. Regardless, I posted this because it would be a very interesting ending if they chose to go this way.


А вот эту cskre я нашла на Whedonesque - первое "после-аннуляционное" интервью Энди Халлетта:
http://www.tve.co.il/story.asp?id=1888

מאת Mika Gill / תאריך 07/03/2004

Spoilers warning: all of season 4
General Spoilers for season 5



To the Hebrew Version

The Hollywood Highland Complex on Hollywood Boulevard is packed with people, and I'm sitting there on a bench, trying to figure out who among all of them is Andy Hallett. After all, although I googled him for pictures, so far I’ve only known him as Lorne the Host on "Angel", and Lorne is green, with red eyes, and horns. For a moment there, I almost mistake him for a forty-ish, balding Japanese guy, but then the real Andy comes along, and he looks great, and much much taller.a

We go over to a nice restaurant, take a sit, get our cran-apple-tinies from the waitress, and start the interview. Nobody in the entire place, not even the waitress, suspects that Andy here is a primetime TV star, and that seems to suit him just fine.a

So how did you end up doing "Angel"? I ask him, and he gives me a look. "I mean the show", I correct myself. "How did you end up on the show?". Andy smiles and says:a
When I first got to LA seven years ago - God, I’ve been here forever - I came with a friend of mine, Dawn, who’s related to Joss Whedon, so I basically got to know him socialy at first. So he watched me and my friends singing at this bar in Holywood, I used to beg him to come to that bar. Make him. It was scary, I mean scary.a

Too sleazy for him?a
Well, he likes stuff like that, but there were darts, you could play darts (at the bar) and these were some serious dart players, and the dart board - that was the stupidest arrangement ever, I used to bitch about it to the owner all the time - the board was at the middle of the bar. People are at the dance floor, and then you see a dart flying and you just have to duck, I’m serious. These guys playing darts were old time dart players and there was this guy, Jim, who’s the darts’ champion over there, and he didn’t take it from nobody and if you were in his way, he would just throw the dart anyway.a

What a nice guy! Can I meet him?a
Oh, he’s dead. He got clubbed over the head and he’s dead, so no. Unfortunately you can’t talk to him, no. So Joss developed this idea and I saw him in the airport, and he was like "What do you think of coming and auditioning for this part?" and he told me straight up, he said "I was inspired by you", so that was nice, but he also said "That doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll get It", because I didn’t have any experience.a

So if somebody else got the part you were the inspiration for, wouldn’t that just suck?a
I would have been PISSED. I would be watching the show every week going like - "@#%$ @#%$!", So I auditioned, and then I had to audition again and again, and then I got the part. I was only supposed to appear a couple of times, like two or three times.a

But people went crazy for you.a
Yeah, which was great. Really really great.a

Are you at all bothered by the fact you have this role in which you’re covered in prosthetics and make up-a
Yes!a

and people can’t recognize you? I finish my question.a
No, that part is good. I like that, that anonymity thing.a

You get the best of both worlds.a
Yes.a

But the make-up is a bitch?a
A BITCH! A bitch, whore, slut. I HATE the make-up!a

Do you at least enjoy the time you spend with the make-up artist?a
Dane is really good. He’s a true professional; he’s won Emmy awards for his make-up and stuff. Dane is cool, it’s just that this make-up procedure takes a long time and I can’t sit still for two seconds. And also, it's usually in a stupid hour of the day.a

Like 4 a.m?a
Yes. I’ve never been a morning person. Never ever ever.a

As you probably already discovered yourselves, Andy’s mind tends to wonder a little. Behind every fairly simple question lays an informative, interesting-beyond-expectations answer. He loves to talk and it definitely shows, but at this point I decide we’ve had enough with the small talk, and cut straight to the good stuff.a

What do you think about James joining the cast in the fifth season? Do you like what he brought to the show?a
Yes. James has a huge following with the ladies, huh? A lot of the fans followed him to the show. He also added a lot of action scenes to the show and his character has a lot of history, which creates a deeper story line. And it also gave us a chance to work with new people, new faces, so that’s always fun too.a

When did you find out that Cordelia is never coming back on the show, and how did you feel about that?a
I guess I found out in April or May but I don’t really remember vividly. I just remember being at home, in Cape Code, at my parent's house - to hear the news about the show - and then finding out that we got picked for a fifth season but Cordelia was not going to be in the mix. And I remember being surprised, but I also knew she was pregnant and having a child, and that she probably wanted to spend time with her child.a

She did appear to be surprised about the news herself. I mean, do you really believe it was her decision?a
I honestly don’t know. I know she wanted to spend more time being able to raise the child, because the way her schedule was prior to that - she couldn’t have. It just takes so long to shoot this stuff. So LONG. To shoot one show is eight days, and it’s eight long, long days, and it’s exhausting. So I can see how one would want not to be doing both at the same time. But I think that Joss and those guys also thought that her character had come to a... I don’t know, that she had reached a plateau or whatever, but I didn’t see that and I don’t think that a lot of the fans saw that, so I was really surprised. But I LOVE her. She’s one of those girls that... she’s in charge, she’s a powerful person. She’ll let you know right away if something’s bothering her on the set.a

So she’s kinda really like Cordy?a
Yeah, in a way. But not the bitchy part. Just very direct and has a powerful presence about her.a

Now with Cordy gone, you hardly have any female characters on the show (except for Fred). How do you feel about that?a
I don’t notice it that much because a lot of my scenes have women in them. And we have Mercedes Mcnab, who’s funny and great. I love her.a

What do you think about the changes in the fifth season - the new format, new locations?a
I LOVE the new locations! It makes it a lot more fun. It’s a bigger set and just… well, new. But it’s also hot as balls in there (you can print that). In between takes, I have to go and stand next to the air condition units, because I get so hot and can melt. It’s ridiculous. But aside from that, the new sets are the bomb! I just don’t know if that was the right story arc. To me, it’s like we say we’re going in to change it (Wolfram & Hart), but the place is so evil that... I don’t know.a

Andy has obviously put a lot of thought into the matter, yet finding the exact words seems difficult for him. I'm not sure whether or not to press the issue, thinking that I have trouble putting my finger on the problem myself. Plus, the show may be cancelled, but I wouldn’t want to mess with the writers, nor would he. I try to change the subject into a more cheery, colorful one, and strike gold.a

What’s your favorite episode?a
Vegas.a

Well, you can't get more colorful then Vegas. "The House Always Wins"?a
Yes. That’s my favorite. Favorite-favorite-favorite! Not because it was all about ME, but because we got to go on location to Las Vegas. When we go on location, it’s usually around here, like an old house, or a gas station, so that was fun. And I’ve always wanted to have like a Vegas show, so it's like a real Vegas show, except that all the people sitting in the audience were getting paid to be there.a

Remember the scene where Joss played your brother and did that ridiculous Dance of Joy? How could you keep a straight face during the shoot - in other words, how many takes did it take?a
A lot! But I didn’t know it was him. He was keeping it a secret.a

Do you think knowing it would have made it funnier?a
No, I knew after a little while, but HE wanted it to be a big surprise, so he even had his make-up done in another make-up trailer. And I remember, cause the make-up artists were having to cater for his needs, so the whole time I was in make-up I kept hearing "We’ve got to do Namphar over at the brown trailer" and I’m thinking "Who the @#%$ is this Namphar? And why is HE getting special treatment, more than I am?", And then we went to a rehearsal, which was out in the woods, and I was late and they were waiting for me. And usually before rehearsals I go up to the other actors and introduce myself, but I was late this time, so I couldn’t. And then I saw Namphar and he did his dance and I thought "Oh my god! Who IS this guy?" I thought he was trash. And... how did I find out? Umm...a

He yelled "CUT!"?a
He smiles, Yeah, right. That’s very funny... I was standing with David Boreanez, and he was like "Oh my god! Do you know who that is?", and he told me, and Joss was really pissed that David told me.a


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Васкес, спасибо )

По финалу... слухи о том, что Линдси окажется, в конце концов, на стороне Ангела, все время бегают по Сети, но вот такой финал.. Хм, как там в "Крестном отце"? Пора выходить на широкую дорогу против Старших Партнеров? Но если правда про СМГ, то я буду только рада )

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Васкез,
Огромное спасибо!
Все так интересно!..


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Еще кое-что появилось, дублирую в оба топика

BSKYB BACKS ANGEL

I sent 3 emails to Sky Tv in the UK last week and i have just got a reply back. As people know Sky One show all new episodes of Angel here in the UK so i wanted to know what they thought about Angel being canceled and what they knew about it. I asked several questions about Angel and they have replied to each of them. Here is the reply i got :

Thank you for your email, we are glad to hear you are enjoying the new season of Angel on Sky One .

Here at Sky One we too where suprised by the decison to cancel Angel after its current season. Angel has always been one of our more popular programs with a loyal and passionate fan base.

To answer your question yes Sky have been in contact with both the producers of the show and the American based broadcast network The WB and we are told that discussions are going ahead behind closed doors to try and secure a sixth season of Angel but unfortunantly we are not privy to the information from these discussions.

Sky One have assured the producers of the show they have our 100% support and we intend to continue showing Angel on our channel should an agreement be made to secure another season.

As to your question of other networks picking up the show, unfortunantly we do not have information on this but be assured everything is being done to try and bring Angel back to Sky One next year.

Kind Regards

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Мы тут сидим с Наи в он-лайне и слетничаем о появлении Сары и возможном 6 сезоне. Ввиду моего суеверия я продолжаю молиться и ждать контрактов.

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VasquezE(03/10/04 03:45:31)

http://www.slayerverse.de/tanet/net_buffy_us/?navi=news.php&id=6013

Sarah Reconsidering Angel Appearance?

One source claims that she has contacted the producers of Angel about reprising her famous role as Buffy.

Last week, the Entertainment Reporter on the WPIX New York Morning News announced that Sarah Michelle Gellar had contacted the producers of Angel about guest-starring on one upcoming episode. If you've read the episode twenty sides, this information would tie in nicely with the summary.


Many thanks to Agent Extremis at the Slayerverse newsgroup for the update.


Скорее всего, бездарный пересказ интервью из Sci-fi , но кто знает...

И в связи с этим уже проводится голосовалка, причем на солидном сайте:

http://www.tvguide.com/news/votepopup2.asp

If Sarah Michelle Gellar reunites with leading men David Boreanaz and James Marsters for the series finale of Angel, with which vamp should Buffy ride off into the daybreak?

* Angel. C'mon, this isn't even a contest. He's the tall, dark and toothsome hunk who taught her how to, ahem, neck — and you never forget your first time. He's the Chosen One's chosen one.

* Spike. William the Bloody went to hell and back to acquire a conscience, and he did so for the love of one woman: Buffy. What's more, while Angel's dark side now is reflected mainly in his wardrobe, Spike wears his naughtiness on his sleeve. So in him, the Slayer has the best of both worlds — a good guy who's also a bad boy.

To find out the results, pick up the March 27 issue of TV Guide magaine, on sale starting March 22.

Геро, если ты сочтешь нужным, перенеси голосовалку в другой раздел или топик.

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Васкес, спасибо за ссылки ))
Голосовалка пусть будет тут, все равно про СМГ пока что спойлер ) Но Баффи с фонариком на фотке возле голосования - это что-то )


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И что я нарыла за последние два дня, вернее, слеерверс нарыл или какие-то товарищи )

1. Алекс, Эли и Тони на премьере "Когда Гарри встретил Салли" в Лондоне - фотки!
2. Обложка Cult Times и интервью с Алексом оттуда.


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Какая же Эли все-таки лампапуся. Прелесть.
Что нельзя сказать о Саре (которая Ив).

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Очень интересное радиошоу Talk of the Nation при участии Роберты Пирсон, Брюса Кемпбелла *как говорят в Сети и я присоединяюсь - скучаю по "Бриско Каунти, младшему"!!!!!* и Джосса, топаете по ссылке, а потом там нажимаете на другую ссылку, выскакивает проигрыватель, быстренько загружается все и можно слушать ))
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Sky сообщает, что "Ангела", по их мнению, не спасти...
http://www.skyone.co.uk/programmes/features.asp?fID=Angel%20End%20Sky%20Comment&prog=22

Angel - The End

Sky One is saddened by the news that the current fifth season of Angel will now be the last to air.

Angel has, and continues to be, a hugely popular show with Sky One viewers and we are disappointed not to be able to bring a sixth series to the UK.

Unfortunately, the decision not to commission another season is with the network in question and beyond our influence.

Sky One continues to strive to bring the best in US drama and sci-fi to the UK and, while a sixth season of Angel will be missed, the remaining episodes and finale, in a season which has proved to be one of the best ever, will undoubtedly contribute strongly to the legacy of the show.

Finally, we would like to thank everyone for their support for both Angel and Sky One.

B? чтобы не было так грустно... Если кто зарегистрирован на CDS, сходите посмотрите на кукольного Спайка...

http://www.forum.colddeadseed.com/viewtopic.php?t=52&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20&sid=2bd0d7ced23a475baccce15082510078
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Забавные виньеточки с вечеринки...

Pop Gurls

http://popgurls.com/article_show.php3?id=461
The Quickest Q&A EVER

A week after the WB network announced that it wJould not renew the show Angel for another season, hundreds of fans of the series turned out in Los Angeles to attend the Wolfram & Hart Annual Review. The event - a fundraiser that raised $18,000 for the Al Wooten Junior Heritage Foundation - also attracted cast and crew from Angel, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Joss Whedon's critically acclaimed (but still cancelled) Firefly.

Despite several amusing interruptions from Firefly's show runner Tim Minear, our roving reporter managed to snag a few of the on-hand celebs to answer some quick Popgurls questions.

Julie Benz
Role in the Buffyverse: Darla on both Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel

POPGURLS: If you could write an episode in this universe, who would you kill off and who would your character sleep with?

I would sleep with Angel and Spike together, then I would have to kill myself at the end. It would be too much.

Tim Minear "kindly and graciously" interrupts the interview to talk to Julie. He asks her to consider doing one of his upcoming projects. Perhaps we'll see her on an upcoming episode of Fox's Wonderfalls? Mr. willa stands by patiently.

POPGURLS: If you could play a different character for just one episode, who would it be and why?

I would play Joss Whedon. It would be really amazing to live with that mind and creativity. And he doesn't have to wear any prosthetics.

David Fury
Role in the Buffyverse: Writer, Director and Producer for both Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, and the guy who "got the mustard out" in the BtVS musical "Once More With Feeling"

POPGURLS: If you could change one story line over the course of the series what would it be and why?

I would probably not have raised Cordelia to turn her into a higher power with great wisdom. All the fun of her character came from her ability to speak the truth and be funny, that's where her wisdom came from.

Tim Minear interrupts David to declare that the most pompous answer he's ever heard. The two bicker good-naturedly, while Mr. willa stands by.

POPGURLS: Name one Angel episode that you felt was unfairly vilified by the fans.

I'm going to say "Apocalypse, Nowish" by virtue of the Cordelia/Connor hook up.

James C. Leary
Role in the Buffyverse: Played the demon Clem on Buffy The Vampire Slayer

POPGURLS: If you could write an episode in this universe, who would you kill off and who would your character sleep with?

I would sleep with Faith and I would kill off....Spike. We would have a big Kung Fu fight. He wouldn't be able to get through my folds. That would be my secret weapon.

POPGURLS:If you could play a different character for an episode who would it be and why?
I would be Tara so I would be able to make out with Willow.

Mere Smith
Role in the Buffyverse: Writer, Angel

POPGURLS: If you could change one story line over the course of the series what would it be and why?

I think making Cordy goody goody, because she then became saintly, and saints aren't fun!

POPGURLS: Name one episode that you felt was unfairly vilified by the fans.

"Hero." That was a great episode, but because of the end result, [Doyle's death], people were up in arms about it.

Jonathan M. Woodward
Role in the Buffyverse: The characters Knox on Angel, Holden Webster on Buffy the Vampire Slayer (and also Tracey on Firefly)

POPGURLS: If you could write an episode of Firefly, who would you kill off and who would your character sleep with?

I think Tracey should sleep with Jayne and then kill him off.

Tim Minear interrupts, finally realizing that it's become a habit. Mr. willa stands by patiently.

POPGURLS: If you could change one thing about any of your characters for an episode, what would it be?

I would totally take a crack at Willow, because she is awesome

И напоследок - что бы это ни значило...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4459672/
David Boreanaz was spotted getting a spray-on tan at an strip mall on L.A.’s Sunset Boulevard, says a source. . . .


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Васкес, спасибо )
Особенно мне понравилось заявление мисс Бенц )))

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Интервью ДБ...

David Boreanaz talks about AtS being canceled- http://tvweek.ninemsn.com.au/tvweek/interview.asp
Angel gets staked

Just weeks after the drama series Angel celebrated its 100th episode, fans were stunned to hear it had been quietly cancelled by the Warner Bros network. But for its star, David Boreanaz, it was not all bad news after five seasons of playing TV’s vampire with a soul.

Were you shocked or surprised when you heard the show was cancelled?
I really wasn’t shocked or surprised. This is the way the business is. Like I said when I started the show, I worked on scene to scene, show to show. My commitment to it was 22 episodes each season, and when that’s done I’d consider it over. So it was actually a big relief for me and, personally, it gave me a big sense of freedom. I felt like a big weight had been lifted from my shoulders.

Why is that?
When you do 100 episodes and you’re carrying a show, it’s a lot of pressure. People rely on you for their jobs – the camera people, the craft services people, the lighting people. Yet you really owe it to yourself to examine what’s right and what’s wrong for you as an artist. I don’t owe anybody anything – I owe myself and my family. So for me, I feel like, ‘Oh, I don’t have to hold that cross anymore.’ As heavy as it may be or as light as it may be, it’s not a negative. It’s a good thing!

How did you feel about the petition to save the show?
I felt bad for the fans. When the producers took the show and re-tooled it in a way that took it in a different direction, it should have been the responsibility of the network to put a keen interest into it during that time. So I don’t think they handled it in the classiest way. And the fans are the people the network really screwed over.

Will you keep any of the props or memorabilia from the show?
I’ll keep a few things, but nothing major. There aren’t any of (Angel’s) suits I’d wear.

You came back for the end of Buffy. Could Sarah Michelle Gellar come back for the Angel finale?
If it happened it would be great, but I’m not generally in favour of “reunions” because there is no reason to go back. It took a lot to get me to do Buffy. At one point I really didn’t want to do it, but as a favour to Sarah I did it.

Is your wife (actress Jaime Bergman) pleased you’ll be home more with her and your son?
She’s not home that much either now her career is starting to bite. But I do hope to be home more with my wife and son because I’m not on set for nine months of the year. That is one thing about the show I won’t miss.

И последняя новость: в пятницу, 19 марта, СМГ (вместе со съемочной группой "Скуби-Ду-2") придет в шоу Райана Сикреста. Интересно, будут ли вопросы про "Ангела"?

А это ссылочка для фанов "Светляка". Первые подробности

http://www.browncoats.com/movie1.html

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Васкес, работаем одновременно, я только что повесила в неспойлерном, думаю, что там тоже может повисеть ))

По "Светляку" же пока неясно, кто будет играть отца Книгу... А так - все на месте, народ уже роли для ДМ подбирает ))


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