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Геро, извини, но у меня опять появился значок, что топик закрыт, а мне хочется поделиться поскорее...
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Два часа назад лидировал Ангел. Потом весть разнеслась по спайковским форумам. Сейчас результаты вот такие
The Poll I'll probably regret: Who should be with Buffy? Spike 39.6% Angel 33.1% Xander 10.3% No one. 8.8% The mummy hand 5.0% Other (comment) 2.5% Riley (barring a divorce) 0.7% Ben (barring resurrection) 0.2%
Total votes: 604
Меня умиляет относительно высокий процент "руки мумии".
И еще: похоже, я поторопилась, заявив, что у Уток сплошной позитив. Я не заходила к ним несколько дней, а там, оказывается, была такая буча... Поскольку место побоища уже убрали, подробности можно почитать в другом месте -
Нет ну что за хамство! Не продуманы и не прослежаны исторические линии! Ну конечно! А представление Дон было продумано их всех закодовали так что нечег тут понимаете ли... В сериале конечно есть ляпы, но а где их нет! И потом ничего серьезного, подумаешь Спайк в зеркале отражается, ну и что я например даже не заметила пока не ткнули пальцем! Вампиры не понравились - добрые слишком? Так в этом и штука что демошы перевопитались. Ведон показывает что даже всамое большое зло может быть исправлено и что любовь (какая она бы не была разделенная или нет) побеждает все и что за свою дюбовь надо бороться. Так что в этом плохого? Дракула тоже между проим влюбился и пытался добиться своей любимой! А какими целями это уже другое.
Ринни Спайк не имеет ничего общего с ннешним! Фи! А как вы хотели он же изменялся! Он в Баффи влюбился и душу себе раздобыл между прочим и как тут не изменися? Что за чушь! Думать надо прежде чем такое говорить! Совсем совесть потерял! Вот бы автора с Марстерсом свести он бы ему все конкретно обьяснил что к чему да так что не повадно было бы говорить о том в чем совепшенно не разбираешься.
И еще очень милая инфа: eshelley (член BAPS и Спарклей) написала отчет о лекции Джейн Эспенсон. Вот интересные отрывки:
I've just returned from Jane Espenson's talk at W and M. Her topic was "Buffy Versus the Gilmore Girls" and she tried to illustrate how certain subjects were handled on each show: power, relationships, and stereotypes. However, it was obvious that the audience was more interested in Buffy and in the question and answer section only Buffy questions were asked.
She made a few general interesting points. Joss got his slant on feminism from his feminist mother who mentored young women. She did not live to see BVTS and he considered the program a tribute to her. (Could this be why many think that his feminist viewpoint was stuck in a timewarp?) I then asked "Why was rape necessary to send him on a soul quest. Couldn't something like the attempted vamping of Buffy have served the same purpose and not have such a harsh realistic intrusion into essentially a fantastic and metaphorical world?" Well, she stepped away from the podium and said, "Some of us argued against it and were totally against a rape." She said that she knew it would cause an big problem but was argued down with the Laura/Luke plotline and how popular that had been. She answered that it was not 1984 and that opinions on rape were vastly different today. She didn't win, but she loved writing the redemption of Spike in season seven. I think I was unclear because of what some BAPS posters commented. Jane in no way suggested that some people wanted the attempted rape to be a copy of Luke/Laura or that Buffy/Spike would be L/Lpower couple clones. I think what she was saying (and, boy, is it hard to interpret when she was very careful not to be critical of anyone specifically) was that when the attempted rape was discussed, Luke and Laura were brought up in the pro argument as a popular plot device in the past.
PS. As per a request, I told her about Joss's acting directions to SMG and JM for the "I love you,". She said that she always knew Buffy loved Spike.
In an exclusive interview with Horror-Web.com, Christian Kane talked about his role on Angel and his problem with using the name Doyle in 'You're Welcome'.
"Me and David have the most fun when we're at each other's throats. Because it's fun and games. The footage that is shown on TV is nothing compared to the footage that is on the floor in the editing room, because me and him are laughing at each other so much. We are friends outside of the show and it's just hard for me to look at him and say, 'I'm going to kill you' [laughs] because he'll start laughing and then I'll start laughing... you don't see it. In season two if you look very very closely when it's an over off of him to me, or an over off of me to him, there's shoulders jerking and jiggling, because the other person who's not on camera but has a shoulder in the shot, is laughing. And that's the honest to God's truth. We'd sit there and he's 'so, you're going to come back here and I'm going to kill you' and the other guy's just bumping up and down laughing. We had to hold a straight face... [HW: So some days it takes a lot of takes to get what we see?] Yeah. Well, actually we're pretty professional. We pretty much tune out the other person when we can. "
If you look at that episode, I did not say Doyle, I said, my name is 'Charles' or something, I can't remember what it actually was. But Joss did that, and this person went online and said hey Chris Kane is back on Angel as Lindsey and it went across the internet like that. It went from here to China in like two seconds. But it said he's playing a character named 'Charles' or whatever it was, and it was the wrong name because Joss is so dang smart. And they put it out there like that and no one got the Doyle reference because I went back into ADR and said 'Doyle' – if you watch my lips I'm not saying 'Doyle' I'm saying Joey or whatever it was. [laughs] But Joss said, come back in and now say 'Doyle'. [HW: And hearing that name come out of your mouth? Let me tell ya... ] I know, right? [HW: Oh yeah, everyone was like 'he's pretending to be who?]
"And that's another thing. When we first started this whole thing, Glenn Quinn, what a great guy and a friend of me and Dave's, and that upset me and I used that as well. Because Glenn was a good friend of mine, and he was a good friend of David's and when we first started this whole thing it was me, Boreanaz, and Glenn. We'd go to Goldfingers, which is Glenn's club, and drink a lot of Jack Daniels and a lot of beer [laughs] and we had a good time. Dave was single, and I've been to his wedding and every birthday party that Jaden's [David's son with wife, Jamie Bergman] had, and Jamie's good people. But there was a time when it was just me, big 'D', and Glenn – it was very very tough [to come back and pretend to be Glenn's character], and I think David fed off that too, I could see it in his eyes.
Literally, it was tough because I felt that I was saying, hey I'm Glenn Quinn. I used that, but it screwed with me. And when David walks down those steps in episode 100 and says 'Lindsey, and this and that, Doyle' I think he's honestly using that because I could see it in his eyes. We're getting ready to fight, but I could see it, it's got to be a tough deal for him. And I felt like maybe that's the one thing that shouldn't have happened. But Joss is brilliant because he used that. How do you turn me and David against each other? You really can't because we're such close friends. So to use that for Angel and Lindsey, I think has a little bit of brilliance to it. It's kind of sick [laughs] but it's brilliant. But it did the job. [HW: Yes, and it was also another way of coming full circle.] It was."
И делаю кросс-пост из Acting - "Ангел" и "Баффи" получили кучу номинаций, голосование с 25 апреля, голосовать можно раз в сутки, с главной страницы. Конечно, все мы понимаем, что эти голосовалки проводятся в основном для повышения кликабельности (у них наверняка расценки на рекламу от этого зависят), но все равно хочется поддержать наших. Кстати, ДМ - первый, кто получил сразу две номинации в одной и той же категории.
SyFy Genre Awards Nominations has been announced. BtVS got 9, AtS got 8 nominations. James is nominated for both Buffy and Angel in the "Supporting actor category". Joss's also nominated for Gene Roddenberry Lifetime Achivement award. Here's is the full article. http://www.syfyportal.com/article.php?id=1341
Quote: SyFy Genre Awards Nominees Announced
Author: Michael Hinman Date: 04-18-2004 Source: SyFy Portal The fifth SyFy Genre Awards have been announced, and the now-cancelled "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" series is this year's top show with nine nominations. It's spinoff "Angel," which will go off the air in May, received eight nominations -- tying it with "Stargate SG-1" and "Farscape."
UPN's "Star Trek: Enterprise" got five nominations while both "Alias" and HBO's "Carnivale" got four nominations each.
On the movie side, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" was the big winner with seven nominations. Both "X2: X-Men United" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" were tied with three nominations each.
The nominees were chosen based on votes from a nominating committee put together by SyFy Portal.
Beginning April 25, fans will be able to vote for their favorites in each of the 13 categories. Visitors can vote once per day per e-mail address, and all they need to do is visit SyFy Portal's main page.
SyFy Portal has been doing the awards since 1999 (no awards took place in 2002 because of the Sept. 11 attacks).
Here are the nominees:
BEST ACTOR/Television Richard Dean Anderson, "Stargate SG-1" Scott Bakula, "Star Trek: Enterprise" David Boreanaz, "Angel" Ben Browder, "Farscape" Edward James Olmos, "Battlestar Galactica" Mandy Patinkin, "Dead Like Me"
BEST ACTRESS/Television Claudia Black, "Farscape" Jolene Blalock, "Star Trek: Enterprise" Eliza Dushku, "Tru Calling" Jennifer Garner, "Alias" Sarah Michelle Gellar, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Amanda Tapping, "Stargate SG-1"
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR/Television Clancy Brown, "Carnivale" James Marsters, "Angel" James Marsters, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Michael Rosenbaum, "Smallville" Michael Shanks, "Stargate SG-1" Connor Trinneer, "Star Trek: Enterprise"
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS/Television Amy Acker, "Angel" Clea Duvall, "Carnivale" Gigi Edgely, "Farscape" Alyson Hannigan, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Lena Olin, "Alias" Teryl Rothery, "Stargate SG-1"
BEST ACTOR/Movie Alan Cummings, "X2: X-Men United" Johnny Depp, "Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl" Ian McKellen, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" Viggo Mortenson, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" Patrick Stewart, "X2: X-Men United" Elijah Wood, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
BEST ACTRESS/Movie Kate Beckinsale, "Underworld" Halle Berry, "Gothika" Keira Knightley, "Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl" Jessica Lange, "Big Fish" Miranda Otto, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" Liv Tyler, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
BEST YOUNG ACTOR David Anders, "Alias" Britt McKillip, "Dead Like Me" Amber Tamblyn, "Joan of Arcadia" Michelle Trachtenberg, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Michael Welch, "Joan of Arcadia" and "Stargate SG-1" Elijah Wood, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
BEST SPECIAL GUEST/Television Francesca Buller, "La Bomba," Farscape Charisma Carpenter, "You're Welcome," Angel Eliza Dushku, "Dirty Girls," Buffy the Vampire Slayer Nathan Fillion, "End of Days," Buffy the Vampire Slayer Thomas Lenk, "Damage," Angel Michael McKean, "Perry," Smallville
BEST EPISODE/Television "A Hole in the World," Angel "Bad Timing," Farscape "Chosen," Buffy the Vampire Slayer "Heroes, Part II" Stargate SG-1 "La Bomba," Farscape "Twilight," Star Trek: Enterprise
BEST THEME SONG/Television Angel Buffy the Vampire Slayer Carnivale Farscape Stargate SG-1 Star Trek: Enterprise
BEST SERIES/Television Alias Angel Buffy the Vampire Slayer Carnivale Farscape Stargate SG-1
BEST MOVIE Big Fish The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King The Matrix Revolutions Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Underworld X2: X-Men United
GENE RODDENBERRY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD James Cameron Jim Henson Peter Jackson Matt Jeffries Steven Spielberg Joss Whedon
The WB's cancellation of "Angel" -- only five more episodes to go -- has inspired fans to fill TV critics' desks with postcards and letters protesting its demise (Angel Avengers, your sorrow and rage are duly acknowledged). Any show that turns its title character into a felt-covered puppet for a week clearly deserves some affection. And with ''Angel,'' creator Joss Whedon has shown a gift for incorporating such silliness into a season-long, nuanced contemplation of the price people pay for the atonement of wrongdoing. If anyone could escape the Chris Carter Curse -- creating one genius series (in his case, ''The X-Files''), then spending years wringing less satisfying variations from it (''Millennium,'' ''The Lone Gunmen'') -- Whedon would seem to be the most likely to succeed.
But thanks to his writers' attempts to distinguish the show from ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer,'' ''Angel'' has resembled a teenager suffering an identity crisis: What began as a vampire noir morphed into a sci-fi wig-out, which in turn became the current supernatural law-office series. At the end of last season, David Boreanaz's title character and buddies including Wesley (Alexis Denisof), Gunn (J. August Richards), and the waif Fred (Amy Acker) accepted job offers at Wolfram & Hart -- ''an evil, multidimensional law firm,'' as Fred has called it. Angel's reasoning was that he'd use his position to fight the good fight from within the belly of this corporate beast of all bad things. The show's writers, however, have had other ideas, like tempting Gunn to unleash an evil spirit who immediately inhabited (and may or may not kill) Fred. Key protagonists have plunged into the Wrath, a ''holding dimension'' of awful terror, and Angel himself is overwhelmed with a paralyzing realization: ''Everything we do is a distraction'' from the coming apocalypse. Angel this season has carried undercurrents of guilt, moral doubt, and confusion that make Kafka seem like a staff writer for ''Hope & Faith.''
At the risk of loosing the Angelic furies upon myself, I gotta say the apocalyptic mumbo jumbo was always the weakest element of ''Buffy,'' and it doesn't play any better here. Ditto the transformation of wabbity Wesley into foxy Wesley -- seducer and, lately, dewy-eyed mourner of Fred. ''Angel'' is wildly uneven: Sometimes it's an absolute blast (James Marsters' gleeful guffaw as Spike, ''You're a wee little puppet man!'' was priceless); sometimes it's a dead-end street (the whole Connor, grown-son-of-Angel subplot was where I exited the series for a spell). For a show with such superb acting -- all honor to Boreanaz, who's got macho vulnerability down to a smooth essence not achieved since James Garner in his ''Rockford Files'' days, and to Amy Acker, who has gone from victim to sexpot to villain without ever hitting a false note – ''Angel'' is surprisingly rife with leaden lines like ''Rules can be broken; all you have to do is push hard enough.''
That said, it's still dismaying that ''Angel'''s lead-in, ''Smallville,'' with its stubbornly inert plots (no flying is one thing; no narrative momentum is another, guys), should remain on the air even though its ratings, like ''Angel'''s, have fallen off this year. And unlike ''Smallville,'' Whedon has been able to ring new changes on resonant themes. In the March 3 episode, for example, Gunn began losing the intelligence boost that Wolfram & Hart implanted in him and desperately did not want to, as he put it, ''go back to being just the muscle'' (that's TV code for ''the stereotypical Strong Black Man''). So in return for remaining a brainiac lawyer, he inadvertently unleashed the season's Big Bad: Fred as the leathery Illyria and her ''army of doom.'' This is at once an extremely ingenious reworking of the Robert Johnson myth (black man sells soul to devil in return for immense talent) and a groaner of a plot turn, since it sets up the series for a climax all too reminiscent of -- you know...Buffy.
Earlier this season, Wesley said, ''Time is not on our side.'' To which Spike retorted, ''Nobody is on our side.'' This beleaguering is what makes ''Angel'''s fan base so passionate; it's also what has kept ''Angel'' locked in adolescence, unable to fully mature. It's sad that for a show with so much complex talent on and off screen, we'll never be able to watch it grow up. Grade: B+
Геро, извини, я пропустила... Ну ничего, напомнить не помешает, не правда ли? Будем голосовать. Я - с двух компьютеров: моего и дочкиного. У нас с ней кооперация: я голосую за ее Дэвида Андерса в категории "лучший молодой", она - за ДМ.
Кстати, видела на Спакклях сообщение, что сегодня какой-то канадский телеканал показывает вручение премий Spacey Awards, и среди участников церемонии числится ДМ. Надо полагать, что он что-то выиграл. Возможно, он будет не лично, а в виде клипа-репортажа, снятого на съемочной площадке "Ангела". Ежели появится видеофайлик - будем качать.
Васкес, в нашем деле - чем больше раз напомним, тем лучше
Эх, голосовать будет обязательно, и видео ждем-с, плюс обещают с шоу Шарон Осборн сделать оперативно )
Но интервью Кристиана Кейна - это песня, этот парень явно не любит поговорить. Вот, что он сказал про ДМ, кстати:
цитата:
. Big Time. And especially with James [Marsters, 'Spike'] coming back to the show. Me and him are like peas in a pod [laugh] when it comes to acting. I have so much fun acting with that kid. We're both kind of die hard... we want the scene to be the best that it can. So with me and James it's like, when it comes to fight stuff, 'push me harder' and he's like, 'no push me harder,' and I'm like 'ok... but push me harder'. We'll give up the body to help the soul. And it's a lot of fun working with him, he's one of the most talented actors I've worked with.
Вот от этого "kid", учитывая то, что Кейн 1974 года рождения, если мне не изменяется память, я выпала в осадок )
ДМ выиграл канадскую премию Spacey Award Подробности:
Со Спарклей - Amelia James just won the Spacey Award for favorite Male TV character! And he had a taped acceptance speech! He was in costume with his Spike duster V.2 and black shirt. Same old I'm afraid. But he was as sweet as can be, mostly stating that he wasn't worthy(as usual) but he was very thankful for his fans and the thing that caught me most was that he said "Canada Rocks!" so really what else is there to say.
I believe he got %37 of the vote. He beat the Lex dude from Superman and the Captain from Enterprise and 3 others.
И добавка с Cold Dead Seed PennyK JM wins Spacey Award: Space Channel April 18, 2004
Just because I love you all (and because, frankly, it's no hardship watching JM over and over again), here's a transcript of his acceptance speech after winning Fav. TV Male Character on the Spaceys.
Introductory clip shows: Puppet Angel and Spike scene, the scene with Illyria just before the fight scene with A & S in Shells - before she and Wes jump into her old dimension, and Spike with the mini bottle of Jack.
We then see JM seated with his back to a wall resting the palm of his (very large) left hand on the top of the Spacey Award (which looks a bit like an alien head). He says:
Hello. This is James Marsters coming to you from the set of Angel. And, I've just been given the Spacey Award for this year and I’m very thankful to you for that. (Casts his eyes down). I didn’t really get into acting for the applause, frankly, or even the awards but what I have missed over the years of doing the show is to not have the kind of (bites lower lip) communication with the audience. The kind of moment to moment (rocks right hand in the air) thing when they tell you if you’re being boring, (scratches head), being interesting, they find something funny and….this is about as close as I’m going to get. (Small laugh). So I thank you.
I feel like I’ve been reaching out over the years, during all the takes and stuff knowing that there were people who were interested and I feel like you guys were reaching back. And I really thank you for that. And you make me feel really good today (nods head). Thank you. (upbeat voice and Hawaiian salute). Canada Rocks.
Angel also won the "Best TV show" category beating out Enterprise, Alias, and some others not familiar to me. Pretty cute as Horatio Hornblower (Smile Time) puppet accepted the award with Steven DeKnight doing the voiceover. He mentioned that he was sorry that they weren't doing another season.
VasquezE, спасибо за статейку, пойду читать и вникать в смыл всего сказанного. А за ДМ могу только порадовать, он заслужил эту премию и думаю что не только эту!
Геро, фотки действительно замечательные, и ОЗ там такой забавный!
Менеджер ДМ попросил распространить информацию: 27 апреля в полдень состоится эпохальное обривание головы в шоу Райана Сикреста
Teeps posted this on BAPS:
James Marsters Shaves Head For Charity
PLEASE HELP GET THE WORD OUT:
Actor James Marsters (aka ‘Spike’ from “Buffy The Vampire Slayer” and “Angel”) will be appearing on the Ryan Seacrest Show, Tuesday, April 27, 2004 from 12 noon to 1 pm. James will be shaving off his famous platinum blonde locks to help raise money and awareness for the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation. The top 10 donors will receive a personalized autographed photo along with a lock of James’ hair. To make a donation go to: www.pedaids.org and make an on-line donation no later than noon on Monday, April 26, 2004. Be sure to mark your donation in honor of James Marsters.
Also, for those fans who can come to the taping, please do so. James will be making an appearance after the show in the courtyard sporting his new look!! This is for a great cause!
**Photo and lock of hair will be mailed out within a week of the event.
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